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		<title>By: Richard Grills</title>
		<link>http://mark-kirby.co.uk/2008/brighton-geek-cafe/comment-page-1/#comment-4461</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Grills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2011 22:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello all, Marwood coffeeshop is now open untill 11pm thurs, friday and sat. if there&#039;s enough demand we&#039;ll happly open all week. But first to get weekends happening!
likemind and a whole host of freelancers already meet here. sorry no licence.keep getting refused .
www.themarwood.com
@_themarwood
01273 382063

Cheers

Richard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello all, Marwood coffeeshop is now open untill 11pm thurs, friday and sat. if there&#8217;s enough demand we&#8217;ll happly open all week. But first to get weekends happening!<br />
likemind and a whole host of freelancers already meet here. sorry no licence.keep getting refused .<br />
<a href="http://www.themarwood.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.themarwood.com</a><br />
@_themarwood<br />
01273 382063</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Richard</p>
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		<title>By: Kristina</title>
		<link>http://mark-kirby.co.uk/2008/brighton-geek-cafe/comment-page-1/#comment-4435</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey! I came across during my research on such cafes such as yours. I am doing research for my Thesis Research class and I would like to pursue this idea. 

Is there any info you can give me about this idea?

-Kiki</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey! I came across during my research on such cafes such as yours. I am doing research for my Thesis Research class and I would like to pursue this idea. </p>
<p>Is there any info you can give me about this idea?</p>
<p>-Kiki</p>
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		<title>By: Gemma Jam</title>
		<link>http://mark-kirby.co.uk/2008/brighton-geek-cafe/comment-page-1/#comment-4347</link>
		<dc:creator>Gemma Jam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 08:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve also been looking for a late night coffee bar in Brighton, heard that Costa inside the Odeon is open till 9.15!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve also been looking for a late night coffee bar in Brighton, heard that Costa inside the Odeon is open till 9.15!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hartree</title>
		<link>http://mark-kirby.co.uk/2008/brighton-geek-cafe/comment-page-1/#comment-2713</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Hartree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 11:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a student and freelance web developer looking for exactly what everyone else here trying to find in Brighton. For me, Moshka is a risk because there&#039;s often young children there. I don&#039;t like the atmosphere and the music either, but I&#039;m willing to forgive this given the difficulty of finding anywhere where work is possible.

One place that can be ok in the mornings is the Varsity pub, on the seafront. Coffee isn&#039;t great but the wifi is acceptable and it&#039;s very quiet. I&#039;ve also been meaning to try Cup / Bottle, opposite Tesco Express in the North Laines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a student and freelance web developer looking for exactly what everyone else here trying to find in Brighton. For me, Moshka is a risk because there&#8217;s often young children there. I don&#8217;t like the atmosphere and the music either, but I&#8217;m willing to forgive this given the difficulty of finding anywhere where work is possible.</p>
<p>One place that can be ok in the mornings is the Varsity pub, on the seafront. Coffee isn&#8217;t great but the wifi is acceptable and it&#8217;s very quiet. I&#8217;ve also been meaning to try Cup / Bottle, opposite Tesco Express in the North Laines.</p>
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		<title>By: shum</title>
		<link>http://mark-kirby.co.uk/2008/brighton-geek-cafe/comment-page-1/#comment-2703</link>
		<dc:creator>shum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 18:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I came across this after my my umpteenth search for a late night cafe.  I&#039;m American but live in Brighton now, and have been frustrated by the lack of cafes open late in London and in Brighton.  I&#039;m a student, so it would be nice to have someplace to work, but my friends in Brighton are not students, and all of them lament the lack of cafes open past 6-7, just to meet up in.  

I&#039;m not sure of the business side of things, but in America, independent cafes work well in university towns-I don&#039;t know of any closing in where I was for several years before moving here-in fact, every time I go back, another one has opened up.  But we don&#039;t have a pub culture either.

Anyway, I think that there is a sizable demand for this beyond students and techie people- many people want a space to meet up in the evenings at somewhere other than a pub.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I came across this after my my umpteenth search for a late night cafe.  I&#8217;m American but live in Brighton now, and have been frustrated by the lack of cafes open late in London and in Brighton.  I&#8217;m a student, so it would be nice to have someplace to work, but my friends in Brighton are not students, and all of them lament the lack of cafes open past 6-7, just to meet up in.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure of the business side of things, but in America, independent cafes work well in university towns-I don&#8217;t know of any closing in where I was for several years before moving here-in fact, every time I go back, another one has opened up.  But we don&#8217;t have a pub culture either.</p>
<p>Anyway, I think that there is a sizable demand for this beyond students and techie people- many people want a space to meet up in the evenings at somewhere other than a pub.</p>
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		<title>By: jack</title>
		<link>http://mark-kirby.co.uk/2008/brighton-geek-cafe/comment-page-1/#comment-2402</link>
		<dc:creator>jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi mark,

i found a link to this blog page when drastically searching &quot;late night cafes brighton&quot; into google for the numerous time in these past few months.

im an undergraduate at sussex university and me and fellow student friends have been searching far and wide for such a place as you have described - a place that would allow us to come and relax and do work whether it be in small groups, or by yourself when it&#039;s 11oclock at night.

i hope you&#039;re still following up with this brain wave - it would be good to hear your progress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi mark,</p>
<p>i found a link to this blog page when drastically searching &#8220;late night cafes brighton&#8221; into google for the numerous time in these past few months.</p>
<p>im an undergraduate at sussex university and me and fellow student friends have been searching far and wide for such a place as you have described &#8211; a place that would allow us to come and relax and do work whether it be in small groups, or by yourself when it&#8217;s 11oclock at night.</p>
<p>i hope you&#8217;re still following up with this brain wave &#8211; it would be good to hear your progress.</p>
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		<title>By: Colette Barry</title>
		<link>http://mark-kirby.co.uk/2008/brighton-geek-cafe/comment-page-1/#comment-2298</link>
		<dc:creator>Colette Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great idea.. we are on the same venture ourselves. Yet with a different twist. Please keep me updated and let me know your progress.
Happy to share my ideas.. email me if you are interested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great idea.. we are on the same venture ourselves. Yet with a different twist. Please keep me updated and let me know your progress.<br />
Happy to share my ideas.. email me if you are interested.</p>
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		<title>By: kirby.mark</title>
		<link>http://mark-kirby.co.uk/2008/brighton-geek-cafe/comment-page-1/#comment-2217</link>
		<dc:creator>kirby.mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 01:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all your comments. As some of you may know by now, the idea has been pushed forward by Josh and Steve now and looks to be going ahead! Hopefully a month from now we will have our own small space, and in time this might grow to be more along the lines of what I mentioned in the article.

Great work everyone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all your comments. As some of you may know by now, the idea has been pushed forward by Josh and Steve now and looks to be going ahead! Hopefully a month from now we will have our own small space, and in time this might grow to be more along the lines of what I mentioned in the article.</p>
<p>Great work everyone!</p>
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		<title>By: Julia Chanteray</title>
		<link>http://mark-kirby.co.uk/2008/brighton-geek-cafe/comment-page-1/#comment-2201</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia Chanteray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting idea and similar to the idea of a magazine cafe which I helped a client explore a couple of years ago - he wanted to do something for journalists and journalism students, which would be a cafe and magazine shop combined.  He ended up not going ahead btw.
The biggest problem is that it&#039;s difficult to make a cafe pay financially.  Running a cafe is tremendously hard work, and only a small proportion of independent cafes are successful.
Independent cafes which are successful tend to be busy with people who come in for around 30-60 minutes and spend money.  They also tend to have a good takeaway trade - takeaway doesn&#039;t take up table space, so you make more profit per square ft. 
Having a theme helps, so something that was aimed at creatives would be good, and having events that draw people in is definitely good.  
Having people who stay for 3 hours and only buy one cup of tea is a bad thing for making money, and such a venture is only sustainable if it makes money. 
You also need someone who knows what they&#039;re doing firsthand to run the place - running a cafe is definitely not for the uninitiated - see my diatribe about why not everyone can run a food business at http://www.thejoyofbusiness.co.uk/resources/food.php 
My last point is about Brighton rents, and planning consent - it&#039;s difficult to get a cafe space in central Brighton because rents have risen a lot, plus with so many cafes in the North Laines the Council are not giving out any more A3 consents in that area.  So unless you want to do a Starbucks and open illegally (sorry, while waiting for retrospective planning consent) then it&#039;s a wee bit more difficult.
If you get as far as identifying premises and a manager, then I&#039;m happy to have a look at the plans - although I&#039;m highlighting the dangers, I&#039;ve helped several cafes set up and keep going.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting idea and similar to the idea of a magazine cafe which I helped a client explore a couple of years ago &#8211; he wanted to do something for journalists and journalism students, which would be a cafe and magazine shop combined.  He ended up not going ahead btw.<br />
The biggest problem is that it&#8217;s difficult to make a cafe pay financially.  Running a cafe is tremendously hard work, and only a small proportion of independent cafes are successful.<br />
Independent cafes which are successful tend to be busy with people who come in for around 30-60 minutes and spend money.  They also tend to have a good takeaway trade &#8211; takeaway doesn&#8217;t take up table space, so you make more profit per square ft.<br />
Having a theme helps, so something that was aimed at creatives would be good, and having events that draw people in is definitely good.<br />
Having people who stay for 3 hours and only buy one cup of tea is a bad thing for making money, and such a venture is only sustainable if it makes money.<br />
You also need someone who knows what they&#8217;re doing firsthand to run the place &#8211; running a cafe is definitely not for the uninitiated &#8211; see my diatribe about why not everyone can run a food business at <a href="http://www.thejoyofbusiness.co.uk/resources/food.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.thejoyofbusiness.co.uk/resources/food.php</a><br />
My last point is about Brighton rents, and planning consent &#8211; it&#8217;s difficult to get a cafe space in central Brighton because rents have risen a lot, plus with so many cafes in the North Laines the Council are not giving out any more A3 consents in that area.  So unless you want to do a Starbucks and open illegally (sorry, while waiting for retrospective planning consent) then it&#8217;s a wee bit more difficult.<br />
If you get as far as identifying premises and a manager, then I&#8217;m happy to have a look at the plans &#8211; although I&#8217;m highlighting the dangers, I&#8217;ve helped several cafes set up and keep going.</p>
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		<title>By: Leif Kendall</title>
		<link>http://mark-kirby.co.uk/2008/brighton-geek-cafe/comment-page-1/#comment-2200</link>
		<dc:creator>Leif Kendall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another thought - could the space be child and baby friendly? It might be nice if parent geeks could also be encouraged to join in!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thought &#8211; could the space be child and baby friendly? It might be nice if parent geeks could also be encouraged to join in!</p>
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